Alfred Joseph HALL

1835 - 1869  (33 years)

• Name	Alfred Joseph HALL
  Birth	1 Jul 1835	Portland Street, Newington, Surrey   [1]
  Baptism	1 Aug 1835	St. Mary, Newington   [1]
  Gender	Male
  1841 Census	New Street, Newington, Surrey   [2]
  	At 1841 Census, he is 5
  1861 Census	17, Southampton St., Camberwell, Surrey   [3]
  	At 1861 Census, he is 28(?), occ "Oil and colourman"
  Death	8 Apr 1869	75, Southampton St., Camberwell, Surrey   [4]
  Burial	15 Apr 1869	Nunhead Cemetery, Southwark, Surrey   [5]
  Person ID	I283	Webb
  Last Modified	29 Apr 2025

  
  

  Father	James HALL
  Relationship	natural
  Mother	Mary Ann DAVENPORT,   b. 15 Apr 1809
  Relationship	natural
  Marriage	9 Jun 1829	St. Mary, Lambeth   [6]
  Family ID	F210	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Family	Eliza Elizabeth BENDY,   b. 12 Jan 1834, Salisbury Cres., Newington, Surrey
  Marriage	8 Mar 1857	St. John's, Lambeth, Surrey   [7]
  Marriage Fact	best match on marriage is Mar qtr 1857, Lambeth vol 1d, p366
  Children	1. Lizzie P. HALL,   b. Abt 1858, Camberwell, Surrey  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]   2. Nellie P. HALL,   b. 1859, Southampton St., Camberwell, Surrey  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]   3. Emma Annie HALL,   b. 1864, Southampton St., Camberwell, Surrey  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]
  Family ID	F211	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
  Last Modified	29 Apr 2025

  
  

• Event Map

  Birth - 1 Jul 1835 - Portland Street, Newington, Surrey Death - 8 Apr 1869 - 75, Southampton St., Camberwell, Surrey Burial - 15 Apr 1869 - Nunhead Cemetery, Southwark, Surrey  = Link to Google Earth

  
  

• Notes

  The details after 1841 are probably wrong, though there is no obvious solution. The reason for assuming this is a) the only reference to Alfred Joseph after 1841 comes in the marriage (1857), where he gives his father as Thomas. Thomas does have children Alfred and Susannah in 1851 Census, and of course Susannah appears as a sister to Alfred in 1861. This then fits with a BMD death record in 1869. The death, marriage and 1861 all have him as an "oil and colourman", so is likely to be the same person. b) there are no obvious records for Alfred or Susannah in 1851 and 1861 - we know that at least Henrietta Susannah was alive. The theory for this is that with both parents dying the children must have gone to another part of the family or to an orphanage. It would be reasonable for Thomas to claim them as his own. The downside is that Thomas's children appear to be in both 1851 and 1841 Census, and this would involve some double counting and I am not sure this could be pulled off. So the only conclusion is that there are some lost records or at least some that are not available on the internet.

  
  

• Sources

  [S638] Baptism register :- St Mary Newington (1835). [S1070] 1841 Census :- New Street, Newington, Surrey. [S641] 1861 Census :- 17, Southampton St., Camberwell, Surrey. [S639] Probate register :- Alfred Joseph Hall (1869). [S640] Burial register :- Nunhead Cemetery (1869). [S1128] Marriage register :- St Mary, Lambeth (1829). [S1129] Marriage register :- St John's, Lambeth (1857).