Edward John Valentine DESBOROUGH

Edward John Valentine DESBOROUGH

Male 1864 - 1946  (81 years)

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  • Name Edward John Valentine DESBOROUGH 
    Birth 14 Feb 1864  1, John St., Newington, Surrey Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2
    Baptism 13 Mar 1864  St. Mary, Newington Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Gender Male 
    1871 Census 7, Little Park Place, Newington, Surrey Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    At 1871 Census, he is 7, occ "scholar" 
    1881 Census 4, Little Pleasant Row, East St., Walworth, Surrey Find all individuals with events at this location  [4
    At 1881 Census, he is 17, occ "Tape Measure Maker" 
    1891 Census 82, Lorrimore Street, Newington, Surrey Find all individuals with events at this location  [5
    At 1891 Census, he is 27, occ "printer"? 
    1901 Census 28, Olney Street, Walworth, Surrey Find all individuals with events at this location  [6
    At 1901 Census, he is 38, occ "leather worker" 
    1911 Census 207, East St., Walworth, Surrey Find all individuals with events at this location  [7
    At 1911 Census, he is 46, occ "Leather Cutter" 
    1921 Census 7, Maydwell St., Camberwell, Surrey Find all individuals with events at this location  [8
    At 1921 Census, he is 58y 6m, occ "Leather Worker" 
    Occupation At the birth of Mabel his occ was "Tape Measure Maker (Journeyman)"  [9
    1939 Register 7, Maydwell St., Camberwell, Surrey Find all individuals with events at this location  [10
    At the 1939 Register, he is widowed, occ "Leather Cutter" 
    Individual Note In the electoral register for 1929, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, he is at 7, Maydwell St, Cambewell with both Mabel Chapman and Rosetta Julia Desborough. But in 1928 it is just him and Rosetta.  [11, 12
    Individual Note 1 In the 1930s he was living off the Albany Road. He did his apprenticeship in leatherwork in Hackney.  [13
    Individual Note 2 He attended Flint St. School, Southwark from 24/4/1876. When he started he was living at 4, Pleasant Row, Newington  [14
    Individual Note 3 Living at 33 Campden St at time of marriage (with Emma Impey)  [15
    Individual Note 4 In the electoral register for 1935, 36, 37, 38 he is at 7, Maydwell St, Camberwell (with Mable CHAPMAN). In 1945 he is at Millais St with Mabel Desborough  [16, 17, 18, 19, 20
    Occupation note 1 At the death of Emma Desborough his occ was given as "Leather Cutter (Journeyman)". At Keziah's marriage he was a "Leather Cutter"  [21
    Occupation note 2 Measure Maker, later "Printer", later "Leather cutter?"  [22, 23
    Occupation note 3 Described as a "Measure Maker" at his marriage and at Edith's baptism  [24
    Death 1946  Kings College Hospital, Camberwell, Surrey Find all individuals with events at this location  [13, 25
    Burial 19 Nov 1946  Streatham, Surrey Find all individuals with events at this location  [25
    Person ID I269  Webb
    Last Modified 1 Jun 2025 

    Father Edward Joseph DESBOROUGH,   b. Abt 1833, Mitcham, Surrey Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 1900, Southwark, Surrey Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 67 years) 
    Relationship natural 
    Mother Henrietta Susannah HALL,   b. 9 Apr 1838, 5, Market St, Borough, Southwark Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 12 Mar 1918, 316, Coldharbour Lane, Newington, Surrey Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 79 years) 
    Relationship natural 
    Marriage 9 Apr 1862  St. Mary, Lambeth Find all individuals with events at this location  [26
    Family ID F195  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 Emma IMPEY,   b. 18 Feb 1863, 18, Cross St., Battersea, Surrey Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 13 Feb 1909, 132, Beresford St, Southwark, Surrey Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 45 years) 
    Marriage 1 Sep 1884  St. Mary Magdalene, Congreve Street, Southwark, Surrey Find all individuals with events at this location  [15
    Family Fact The 1911 Census states 3 children living (Edith, Mabel, Annie[Keziah?]), and 3 dead, although I have 7 children in total  [7
    Notes 
    • Based on the Southwark vaccination records, there was a son born on Jan 2nd 1887, Edward, who appears to have died the same day.
    Children 
     1. Keziah Annie DESBOROUGH,   b. 17 Sep 1894, 28, Olney Street, Walworth, Surrey Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 1967, Islington, Middlesex Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 72 years)  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]
     2. Mabel Henrietta DESBOROUGH,   b. 23 Jan 1893, 82, Lorrimore Street, Newington, Surrey Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 9 Feb 1975, 6, Stream Park, East Grinstead, Sussex Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 82 years)  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]
     3. Jessie Victoria DESBOROUGH,   b. Abt 1900, Walworth, Surrey Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Abt 1903 (Age 3 years)  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]
     4. Emma Ethel DESBOROUGH,   b. 21 Jul 1885, 23, Camden St., Walworth, Surrey Find all individuals with events at this location  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]
     5. Edith Annie DESBOROUGH,   b. 31 Jul 1890, 82, Lorrimore Street, Newington, Surrey Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 5 Jun 1978, 24, Agaton Road, New Eltham, Kent Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 87 years)  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]
     6. Stanley Alexander DESBOROUGH,   b. 13 Jan 1896, 28, Olney Street, Walworth, Surrey Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Abt 1903 (Age 6 years)  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]
     7. Edward Sidney DESBOROUGH,   b. 23 Oct 1887, 82, Lorrimore Street, Newington, Surrey Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 1911 (Age 23 years)  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]
    Family ID F180  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 1 Jun 2025 

    Family 2 Grace Agnes BABBS,   b. Abt 1883, Hackney, Middlesex Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 1916, Southwark, Surrey Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 33 years) 
    Marriage 27 Mar 1910  St. Peter's, Walworth, Surrey Find all individuals with events at this location  [27
    Children 
     1. Kate Agnes DESBOROUGH,   b. Apr 1911, Dulwich, Surrey Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 1911  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]
     2. Edward Alfred DESBOROUGH,   b. 1916   d. 1919, Southwark, Surrey Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 3 years)  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]
     3. Grace E DESBOROUGH,   b. 1912   d. 1912 (Age 0 years)  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]
     4. Florence DESBOROUGH,   b. 23 Jun 1914, 167, South St., Southwark, Surrey Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 1915, Southwark, Surrey Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 0 years)  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]
    Family ID F205  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 1 Jun 2025 

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBirth - 14 Feb 1864 - 1, John St., Newington, Surrey Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google Maps1881 Census - At 1881 Census, he is 17, occ "Tape Measure Maker" - - 4, Little Pleasant Row, East St., Walworth, Surrey Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google Maps1891 Census - At 1891 Census, he is 27, occ "printer"? - - 82, Lorrimore Street, Newington, Surrey Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google Maps1901 Census - At 1901 Census, he is 38, occ "leather worker" - - 28, Olney Street, Walworth, Surrey Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google Maps1911 Census - At 1911 Census, he is 46, occ "Leather Cutter" - - 207, East St., Walworth, Surrey Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google Maps1921 Census - At 1921 Census, he is 58y 6m, occ "Leather Worker" - - 7, Maydwell St., Camberwell, Surrey Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google Maps1939 Register - At the 1939 Register, he is widowed, occ "Leather Cutter" - - 7, Maydwell St., Camberwell, Surrey Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarriage - 1 Sep 1884 - St. Mary Magdalene, Congreve Street, Southwark, Surrey Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarriage - 27 Mar 1910 - St. Peter's, Walworth, Surrey Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDeath - 1946 - Kings College Hospital, Camberwell, Surrey Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsBurial - 19 Nov 1946 - Streatham, Surrey Link to Google Earth
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  • Notes 
    • The family story, as related by more than 1 of his grandchildren is that he went into partnership with 4 others to make DEANS tape measures (DEANS is the acronym of the 5 partners). However the story, whilst having the support of a photo, is at variance to info on the web, and so it is probably a story told to sound good to the children, but actually is completely untrue, and it is more likely perhaps that EJVD worked for DEAN tape measures. Note that in 1921 he is a leather worker employed by Howard Wall and Co. One of his grandchildren remembers him asking that they get a copy of the "News of the World" on Sundays as he said he was descended from Lord Desborough "of Ireland", and wanted to see if he had been left any money. Since there is no evidence for anything like this, I wonder if he was a joker, and perhaps a great story teller.

      Possible death Oct qtr 1946 aged 82, Lambeth. This is for Edward JV - which seems quite likely. Matches a family story that he was knocked down by a bus and later died of a heart attack in King Coll Hosp. MyHeritage website has a burial 18 Nov 1946 in Streatham, which matches where Mabel and her family were living in 1946.

      Marriage with Mabel Chapman Oct qtr 1934, Southwark. Mabel died Jan qtr 1946, buried 22/2/1946 at Camberwell New Cemetery and Crematorium. At the 1939 Register, Mabel is there (but she given as single, him as a widower). So the 1939 Register is out of date. The banns were last read on 30th Sept 1934, so presumably they were married the following Saturday, ie 6th Oct. The register says she was born 2/7/1884.

      Marriage with Rosetta Jane JOHNSON (nee YOUNG) Oct qtr 1916, Southwark. Rosetta died Jul qtr 1934, Camberwell, and is buried in the plot next to Mabel (nee CHAPMAN) 3/8/1934. At the 1921 Census, Rosetta is 55y 6m, and noted as born in Croydon.

  • Sources 
    1. [S588] Birth Certificate :- EJV Desborough (1864).

    2. [S589] Baptism register :- St Mary Newington (1864).

    3. [S517] 1871 Census :- 7, Little Park Place, Newington, Surrey.

    4. [S514] 1881 Census :- 4, Little Pleasant Row, East St., Walworth, Surrey.

    5. [S439] 1891 Census :- 82, Lorrimore Street, Newington, Surrey.

    6. [S440] 1901 Census :- 28, Olney Street, Walworth, Surrey.

    7. [S443] 1911 Census :- 207, East St, Walworth, Surrey.

    8. [S2771] 1921 Census :- 7, Maydwell Street, Camberwell, Surrey.

    9. [S446] Birth Certificate :- Mabel Henrietta Desborough (1893).

    10. [S601] 1939 Register :- 7, Maydwell Street, Camberwell, Surrey.

    11. [S590] London Electoral Register, Camberwell, 1933.

    12. [S591] London Electoral Register, Camberwell, 1934.

    13. [S54] Information from the family.

    14. [S587] Admission Details :- Flint St School (1876).

    15. [S586] Marriage Certificate :- Edward Desborough - Emma Impey (1884).

    16. [S596] London Electoral Register, Camberwell, 1936.

    17. [S597] London Electoral Register, Camberwell, 1937.

    18. [S598] London Electoral Register, Camberwell, 1938.

    19. [S599] London Electoral Register, Camberwell, 1945.

    20. [S600] London Electoral Register, Camberwell, 1935.

    21. [S442] Marriage register entry :- Joseph Glenister - Keziah Annie Desborough (1915).

    22. [S593] Baptism register :- St Marks Walworth (1885).

    23. [S594] Baptism register :- St Marks, Walworth (1896).

    24. [S595] Baptism register :- St Marks Walworth (1890).

    25. [S2772] Burial transcript :- EJV Desborough (1946).

    26. [S1116] Marriage Certificate :- Joseph Edward Desborough - Henrietta Susannah Hall (1862).

    27. [S619] Marriage register entry :- EJV Desborough - Agnes Babbs (1910).